Showing posts with label conversation. Show all posts
Showing posts with label conversation. Show all posts

Monday, October 27, 2008

And they speak of the rights of a woman...

http://radgeek.com/gt/2008/06/18/abortion_on/

First read above.

Second, understand.

Third, I apologise for mentioning a certain conversation over here, but it is necessary.

So I'm still a little riled, more at the law than at anything else. Everything is so intensely screwed up in the world. My country, India, the world's largest democracy, a near-third world nation(lets not elude ourselves) does not allow homosexuality. It is punishable by law. Your preference is liable to get you jailed. Yes, we have progressed from the middle ages to the middler ages.

New Zealand is supposed to be an advanced country. What gives them the right to decide what the mother wants? Is it by any chance the government's concern? Is the father a collective set of fogies who sit in positions of power taking decisions on other people's lives? Does the consultant know what the woman might be going through? Is it fair that she reveal her life to a complete stranger and let her wishes become slave to their discretion? And then you call it a free country?

And then, I talked about this to a friend, I respect her views, but I cannot help but say they are wrong. She first said that a person shouldn't get physical with anyone without taking precautions. Agreed. Precautions aren't fool-proof. What then? "She shouldn't act slutty, then". Do you call an expression of love, an act of love, particular, to that person, maybe, "slutty"? Can you judge a person on the basis of a single act?

Then, it was said that the unborn child has a right to live. Of course, it does. Everyone has a right to live. Only is it right for the unborn child to die or one that is born?

I may be stereotyping, but there is a chance that the woman in question could be:

a) poor
b) a junkie
c) not wanting a child

In the first case, will the child be supported by the government? In society, will the child be respected, treated as an equal? Will the people accept the child as a part of the same society that is giving it its right to live? I don't know. Will the child have friends? Will the mother not be looked upon as "a little loose"? Will the fact that she might have done nothing to deserve the snide comments and the stares of society make a difference? I don't know about NZ, but in India, she'll live through hell for it.

In the second case, how might she support the kid? Again, will the environment be conducive to the growth of the child? Will there not be a great chance that it grows up to become like one of its parents, still considered a burden to society? Society might accept that, won't it?

In the third? The child will be hated. By its mother, and if there is a father, by the father. The mother will not want to care for it and will look upon it as a mistake. And I don't know how many people know how it feels to be treated that way. If the child doesn't kill itself, it might just turn into a psychotic of some sort.

Either way, is it not the choice of the woman to decide whether she wants to give birth or not?
Are those not 9 months, and consequent years of her life that she is free to dispose of? Is it fair on to a child, born, because of the decision of someone who doesn't know any of the circumstances leading to the abortion, to face hatred or social anathema?

I'm not a feminist or anything, I believe in equality, and questioning a woman's decision in that manner isn't equality.

I'm ranting, and might not have made sense, but I am mad about the whole situation.

(Old post from other blog)

Monday, February 04, 2008

Analogy With The Romans(incomplete)

Me and Karan were talking about 1041 IST and this is what we talked about... And its rather funky, so I thought we'll put it up and see how people, respond, if they read our blog, ever...

10:41 AM K-Squared: dude, the romans were fucked up

me: I know... really fucked up...

10:42 AM K-Squared: i was jus reading livy

me: Livy?

K-Squared: yeah

me: what eet is?

10:43 AM K-Squared: ancient roman historian

for this course, we have to read livy, ovid, the roman comedies, etc.

10:44 AM plus roman erotic poems n surch

such*

apparently, ovid was sort of the roman vatsayana, though he was more about picking up chicks n stuff

me: ah... good... yes, they were a bunch of fucked up people... brilliant ones are almost always fucked up...

10:45 AM K-Squared: yeah dude, but that was not exactly brilliant

they got most from the greeks

the greeks werent fucked up, they wer

10:46 AM me: the greeks were fucked up as well...

K-Squared: not that bad

10:47 AM dude, half of what i read was rape and such

me: well, Zeus married his own daughter... thats about as fucked up... No, the Greeks were smarter...

K-Squared: yep

K-Squared: is it ok to say that the romans were fucked up

11:18 AM on an essay for the roman achievement

me: yes... although, one would have to mention the achievements and then mention the fuck ups...

11:19 AM K-Squared: the part i'm writing about is mostly a fuckup

me: which one?

K-Squared: the decimvirs

me: ah...?

11:20 AM K-Squared: look it up

11:22 AM me: too complicated...

K-Squared: ok

11:23 AM me: I mean googling it is...

11:24 AM K-Squared: ok

11:25 AM me: what is it about, again?

K-Squared: what?

me: decimvirs

11:26 AM they're 10 guys who made laws, and?

K-Squared: pretty much

11:27 AM me: so where comes the fuck up?

K-Squared: they relected a decimvir coz they were very nice the first time around

11:28 AM but this time, one guy, took control, got greedy, and voila! a tyranny is born


7 minutes

11:35 AM K-Squared: pretty much it

11:36 AM n not that they hadnt had a long line of tyrants before to learn from

11:39 AM me: well, people never learn... look at our materland...

K-Squared: ah true, but there is still a difference

11:40 AM me: and that would be?

K-Squared: we arent that fucked up

besides, we're fucked up in a different way

and, we didn't elect bush

and laloo is actually doing a good job

11:41 AM me: neither did the Romans... we elected Modi... and he's doing an even better job, isn't he?

K-Squared: the romans elected appius, literally gave him the rope to hang themselves with

modi actually is doing a damn good job in that sense

11:42 AM besides, these guys fucked everything up

11:45 AM me: modi is killing and holding bias in the name of religion... and Indians elected Arjun Singh giving him the rope to slowly strangle not just themselves, but also their future... the thing with governing people is, that every one in the end destroys all that they shouldn't because they make decisions that aren't supposed to be made by them.. people don't understand that and allow them to do so... its like god... if its nice, say god is great, if its something bad, blame it on the devil... at the end of it all, it was you who created them both and it was your decision that lead to whatever happened...